AN INTERVIEW WITH HOLY WAVE

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      Holy Wave is an El Paso based self-described "Utah Jazz" band that floats around the bend of the constantly changing psych-garage scene in Austin. After Mary and I caught them at Cheer Up Charlies during a rare all ages performance, they let us meet up with them for sandwiches and beer to chat.  

 

WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE BEATLES ALBUM?

I'M KYLE, MINE'S REVOLVER.

I'M JOEY AND MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR.

RYAN, WHITE ALBUM.

HI I'M JULIAN, WHITE ALBUM ALSO.

I'M DILLON, RUBBER SOUL.

 

WHEN YOU GUYS ARE CREATING MUSIC (AND ESSENTIALLY ART) DO YOU CREATE IT FOR YOURSELVES IN A THERAPEUTIC SENSE/ADVANCEMENT OF MUSIC OR IS IT FOR A SPECIFIC AUDIENCE WITH AN INTENTIONAL FEELING?

      R: I THINK THAT IT DEPENDS. FOR SONGS, SOME SONGS I'D SAY THERE ARE PARTICULAR SONGS THAT ARE MORE ANECDOTAL, LIKE A PARTICULAR STORY ABOUT IT. A SITUATION YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN THAT MAYBE TENDS TO BE MORE THERAPEUTIC LIKE YOU SAID. IT'S KINDA WEIRD FOR ME IT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT OF 'A' AND A LITTLE 'B'. YOU INITIALLY WRITE THE SONG FOR YOURSELF, BUT YOU DO IT IN A WAY THAT CAN REACH OTHER PEOPLE.

 

IS THERE A SONG THAT YOU GUYS REALLY LOVED THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT FOR THIS ALBUM?

    D: THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.

    R: ONE SPECIFICALLY THAT WE FINISHED WITH THE OTHER NIGHT. THAT SONG WE WROTE AS A REAL FUN SONG AND TO ADVANCE OUR SONG WRITING ABILITIES. IT'LL MAKE IT ON SOME ALBUM. YOU ALWAYS KIND OF ASSUME THIS IS JUST ON IDEA THAT YOU WERE WORKING OUT BUT LATER THERE'S GONNA BE A NEW IDEA WITH NEW SONGS AND MAYBE THAT SONG WILL BE ON THERE.

 

GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A SONG THAT YOU HAD A SPECIFIC FEELING AND INTENTION FOR.

     K: I THINK “ADULT FEAR.”

     D: OH DEFINITELY.

     K: “ADULT FEAR” WE WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT HAD A LITTLE MORE ENERGY IN IT, A LITTLE MORE...

     D: DARK ENERGY.

 

DARK ENERGY?

     K: WE WERE CONSCIOUS OF THAT WHILE WE WERE MAKING IT I SUPPOSE.

     R: IT'S THE FIRST SONG THAT REALLY DOESN’T INVOLVE A HAPPIER NATURE. IT'S NOT A LOVE SONG, IT'S NOT A SAD SONG, IT'S A SONG ABOUT BEING UPSET ABOUT CURRENT SITUATIONS. POLITICAL MAYBE.

 

SO MAYBE LIKE AN ANTI-CAPITALIST SONG?

     R: MAYBE NOT ANTI-CAPITALISM BUT THE WOES OF CAPITALISM.

     JU: THERE'S A LOT IN THE 21ST CENTURY.

 

AS COMPARED TO A DIFFERENT CENTURY?

     ALL:YEAH.

     R: COULD BE LIKE THE WOES OF OLIGARCHY.

     K: HAHA, THE WOES OF OLIVE GARDEN?

     R:🎵NO MORE BREADSTICKS...🎵.

 

SO HOW DO Y'ALL CHALLENGE YOURSELVES (MUSICALLY)? AND WHAT MAKES YOU GUYS STAND OUT?

     K:THE MUSIC THAT'S COMING OUT THESE DAYS IS REALLY REALLY GOOD. I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A DESIRE TO MAKE THINGS THAT SOUND PRETTY TO A CERTAIN DEGREE WHICH SOMETIMES IS OUR DOWNFALL BUT A LOT OF THE TIMES I THINK THAT'S ONE OF OUR STRENGTHS SINCE WE DON'T CARE WHAT STYLE MUSIC IT IS AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME KIND OF BEAUTY, PRETTY THING GOING ON.

 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PRETTY? LIKE BY WHAT STANDARDS?

     R: AS LONG AS KYLE THINKS IT'S PRETTY, THEN IT IS.

 

WHAT IS BEAUTY IN MUSIC? WHAT IS THE FEELING OF A SONG BEING PRETTY?

     R: I ASK MYSELF THAT QUESTION ALL THE TIME. MY IDEA OF BEAUTY IS A LITTLE HARSHER.

     K: YOU KNOW WHEN THINGS START SOUNDING A LITTLE MORE SHINY, THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF DREAMY QUALITY TO IT.

     R: YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT IT LIKE THAT SHOEGAZE ELEMENT, LIKE BEAUTY BY SHOEGAZE MUSIC.

     K:  IT EVOKES A FEELING. IT'S SOME KIND OF PROFOUND THING THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DARK, BUT IT'S NOT LIGHT. IT'S LIKE A BEAUTIFUL THING YOU KNOW.

 

LIKE IN BETWEEN BEAUTY AND PAIN, VOID MUSIC?

     K: ONCE I START TALKING FOR MORE THAN LIKE ONE MINUTE I JUST COMPLETELY STOP MAKING SENSE.

     [All laugh]

 

YOU'RE TRYING TO EMULATE BEAUTY AND GRACE INTO YOUR MUSIC?

     K: YES, NOT NECESSARILY OPTIMISM BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE SOME KIND OF HOPE. MORE THAN EVER WANTING TO SOUND TOUGH OR SOUND COLD OR SOUND INTENSE. I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WILL BE LIKE 'OOH'.

     R: I THINK IT'S A BITTERSWEET FEELING AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT. YOU COULD BE SAD AND LISTEN TO IT AND FEEL SAD. AND BE HAPPY AND LISTEN TO IT AND BE HAPPY.

     JU: IT'S A SYMPHONY OF NO.

 

SPEAKING OF FEELINGS, HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT GOING ON TOUR?

     R: IT'S BEEN AWHILE. WE GOT A LOT OF TOURS COMING UP.

 

WHERE ARE YOU GUYS MOST EXCITED TO PLAY?

     JU: I ALWAYS LIKE GOING TO CANADA. CANADA'S PLEASANT.

 

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN Y'ALL GO ON TOUR?
 

     K: THE WORST WAS PROBABLY WHEN OUR TRANSMISSION BLEW OUT TWICE ON THE SAME TOUR.

     JU: WE'RE PLAYING THE EMPTY BOTTLE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THEY STOLE ALL OUR MONEY.

     K: WELL NOT THEM, BUT SOMEBODY STOLE A BUNCH OF MONEY FROM US IN CHICAGO. WE WERE FOOLISH BACK THEN.

     JO: YEAH BUT WORSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. WE LOST JOSH.

     K: OH YEAH, WE LOST JOSH.

     JO: WE LOST A GUY.

     K: WE LOST A GUY WHO HAD TO CATCH UP BY TRAIN LIKE A WEEK LATER OR SOMETHING.

 

WHAT HAPPENED? HOW DID Y'ALL LOSE HIM?

     R: WELL HE LOST HIMSELF REALLY. LET'S JUST SAY HE FOUND SOMEONE HE'D RATHER SPEND A FEW DAYS WITH.

[proceeds to tell story about this random guy who worked on lights and was a WILD time, mustaches, and favorite velvet underground albums. Thanks fellas!]

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MADI PERRY