AN INTERVIEW WITH WORN TIN
Warner Hiatt is a 23 year old Los Angeles musician who makes alternative rock reminiscent of sunshine steeped early Modest Mouse. Last November we grabbed tacos in Downtown LA and talked about instagram, obsession, and having an internet famous butt.
HOW’S YOUR DAY GOIN?
W: My day’s been good but a bit strange. My guitar player’s been gone for five months and we met up and jammed for a second. This morning there was a fire. A really gnarly fire in Ventura so I woke up. I thought there was a fire outside my house because it was so smoky and everything. Really crazy. 25,000 acres ruined. This is the first meal I’ve eaten today. I was out late last night. I just slept in and worked on some music and played a little Mario Kart.
HOW’S LIFE AT THE MOMENT?
When you look at life from afar, if you take a step back and look at your life, I would say 10/10. Like, a happy healthy kind of thing. Look where we get to live! I have a lot to be thankful for. Just emotionally it’s damaging. I’m dealing with some garbage. I’m pretty upset because I don’t know what I’m doing but I think that’s half the people in LA so it’ll work itself out, y’know?
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LA EARLY 20s EXPERIENCE.
I was taking a comedy class and this kid was like, “yeah I have three jobs and I have no idea what I’m doing” and the teacher was like, “that’s every person in LA.” You have to understand that every person is working a fuck ton of jobs to do their craft and then to afford rent and they’re always figuring out what the next grind is.
LAST SONG YOU LISTENED TO?
I was listening to the new King Krule album in the car on the way here. Been listening to a ton of Ween. I’ve been listening to their country album a ton. I was listening to a ton of Fatlip from Pharcyde as well. Those are the most recent because Spike Jonze did a video for Fatlip. It’s super simple. It’s just him walking around dressed up as a clown, but it’s Spike Jonze so you know it’s going to be good. It’s shot beautifully. The song is called “What’s Up Fatlip.”
STRANGEST THING THAT’S HAPPENED TO YOU THIS YEAR?
I did this solo show and I had nothing planned and it was in this art gallery and I had a ton of people there. I set up the stage as a living room and I had been totally bogged down by all these things that reminded me of my ex girlfriend so I set up this space where I could just destroy shit. I broke this speaker, I smashed a vase over my head, I cried. I was screaming at people, like, “what are you looking at?!?” I’ve never done anything like that before. I had never totally given myself full openness to do whatever the fuck I wanted on stage because I usually have a plan so that was kind of interesting. Do you know the musician Drugdealer? I skated with him and a bunch of kids who were sponsored by Nike SB. That was kind of strange. It was cool, though. You know what was the weirdest thing I did this year? I saw a psychic. I was kind of having a tough time and I asked my mom to see a therapist. And she was like, “alright I’m not paying for your sessions so make it last. You get one session.” So I lied to her and I instead used that money to go see a psychic because I thought a psychic would give me better advice than a therapist and the psychic said some gnarly fucking shit. She kept telling me she sees a little boy in the room. She was like, “I see this kid standing next to you. He’s four years old. He’s your son.” And she said she wanted me to understand that this was the only time she’d ever felt this. She’d never had a child next to a man she was reading. She said, “you will not experience true love until you meet this son.” So that was kind of crazy.
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE A FAMOUS BUTT?
Do I have a famous butt?
IT’S IN A VIDEO.
My butt? Is my butt in a video? Maybe? You’re pulling some Nardwuar shit!
I LOOKED UP A YOUTUBE VIDEO AND THERE’S A SHOT WITH YOUR BUTT IN IT.
Oh that’s the Doug video. Wow I’m glad you like my butt. I’ll tell you right now it’s hairy as fuck, it’s bony as fuck and it’s small as hell. I can’t control it.
HOW MUCH TIME A DAY DO YOU SPEND ON INSTAGRAM?
I’m going to embarrass myself. I spend a lot of time on Instagram. It’s really bad. I’m actually working on a new album that talks about this because it’s an addiction. It’s really really bad. I notice when I’m sad I go on it more and I go on it looking for something and the worst thing is I never find it and it’s the most depressing thing that we all do. It sucks! But it’s also kind of interesting. It’s definitely some Black Mirror shit. We’re just watching people’s lives.
DO YOU THINK YOU’LL STILL USE INSTAGRAM WHEN YOU’RE 45?
I would hope that I throw out my phone. It’s building a world. I really really really want to spread my music. I like meeting people. People are so interesting. I love people watching. I’m sure in the future there’s going to be an amusement park where you just watch people walk by. My dream is very much to move to Scotland and be a little dormant, write music there and get a flip phone. But we’re young and Instagram and Facebook is so up to date and you kind of have to be in the game because you miss a couple weeks and it’s, like, what the fuck is going on?
WHAT DO YOU IMAGINE YOUR LIFE WILL BE LIKE AT 45?
I would hope that I have children by 45. My parents had kids when they were older and I would like to have them when I’m relatively young. I really like outdoors things. It would be really cool to live in the mountains in Montana and not really have much to do. I really like the thought of a wife and being with someone who loves me and having a child together. It’s so silly because I’m definitely a romantic. My dream is to keep touring and touring. I love playing shows and if you’ve ever seen me live every show is different. I always plan shit. I used to work on the Eric Andre Show and when I did that I just watched the possibilities of freaking people out and being exciting and I realized I never want to be in a band that you go see and be like “I spent $10 on this ticket and I wish I hadn’t spent the money.” I want you to leave and be, like, “that was worth every fucking penny” every time. I love seeing people’s faces in amazement when I do some gnarly shit. Like, if I get naked or break something on my head or pull out a confetti gun…
HAVE YOU EVER KICKED IT WITH ERIC ANDRE?
I sent my friend on a date with him. Have I ever kicked it with him? No. I think the most I ever talked to him about was when I got into the Berklee College of Music and he went there and I sat down with him and we chatted for a second about if I should go or not.
WHAT SHOULD FANS EXPECT FROM YOUR NEW MUSIC?
I’m releasing a record soon. It’s about obsession and obsessing over things. When I moved to West Hollywood I lived near the Supreme store and I was so fascinated by the kids would wait in line. I want to pick your brain. Like, it’s no diss I’m just so intrigued by being obsessed with small things because we all do it all the time. Like, I check my Instagram every day. But I also obsess over people and patterns. Obsessions aren’t bad and there’s a difference between obsession and addiction.
WHAT WOULD LIFE BE LIKE WITHOUT OBSESSION? IT WOULD BE REALLY BORING. I CAN’T IMAGINE A LIFE WHERE YOU’RE NOT SUPER INTO THE SHIT THAT YOU’RE INTO.
You have to have a passion. You think about life and it’s like, we’re not even a quarter of the way through our life and it’s like, damn life’s going to end and what do I have to show for it? So to live the best life just be happy. But there’s two kinds of happiness. There’s the happiness where you’re comfortable. That happiness comes from watching a movie that you’ve already seen or playing a video game. That happiness comes from the things around you. Or you can go out and experience something new but that runs the risk of anxiety, or anger, or being uncomfortable. Sadness. Getting hurt. But that’s a brand new happiness that you can take and put into this pocket of things that make you happy. So my philosophy in life is just to be happy and try to find a balance between the comfort and the push to try new shit. But anyways, I have this new record I’m trying to do and the goal is to play a ton of shows. I plan to do a lot of shows and release at least one album this year.
WHAT ARTISTS SHOULD YOUR FANS CHECK OUT?
Banes World, Daisy, Wild Wing, Cobra Man. Boyo, Model/Actriz!
photo by AL SMITH